Ken Wilber - Integral Politics



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At the recent 5-day Integral Institute seminar on Integral Business Leadership,
Ken Wilber was asked, by a senior Zen teacher, "What do you think of the Republican convention?"
Ken responded by giving an overview of what a truly integral politics might look like, and used that to compare and contrast with the Democratic and Republican conventions, both of which are less-than-integral. We think that this twenty-minute summary is brilliant, insightful, deadly serious, and
wickedly funny, all at once. But by all accounts it is an extraordinary account of why all politics today are considerably less-than-integral, along with certain features that almost certainly would have to be included in the future in any truly integral politics. In this synopsis, Ken focuses on t
hree items that all political theories have attempted to address but none have managed to fully integrate. These are the tension between (1) the individual and the collective; (2) the source of the cause of human suffering: is the individual primarily to blame or is the society primarily to blame?;
and (3) the different levels of development that the different political parties tend to represent: any truly integral politics would include and represent all of them, and yet how on earth do you do that? Due to time considerations, Ken did not discuss two other equally important ingredients in an
y integral politics. One. In representational democracies, people have a right to be at whatever stage of development they are at, and generally speaking, within free speech, a right to express the values of whatever stage they are at. Traditional-fundamentalist (blue) has a right to be traditional,
modernist (orange) has a right to be modernist, postmodernist (green) has a right to be postmodernist, and so on. This is generally modified in practice, to the extent that the center of gravity of a culture will tend to impose its values on others, especially if they are first-tier (or less-than-i
ntegral) values. Nonetheless, in democratic societies, there's a general background understanding that people have a right to be, and a right to express, whatever stage they are or whatever belief system they possess. Two. They do not, however, have a right to act on those beliefs. This is general
ly handled in representative democracies by a separation of public and private, and by a similar if more specific principle of the separation of church and state. This means that, for example, in the privacy of my blue-meme mind, I am free to believe that Jesus Christ is my personal savior and that
nobody achieves salvation without a belief in Jesus. In public behavior, however, I am not allowed to burn at the stake somebody who disagrees with me. In terms of integral psychology, this means in the interior of an individual (i.e., the upper left), the person can believe whatever they like; but
in their public behavior (i.e., the upper right), they must behave according to laws drawn from a worldcentric or higher level of development (lower left), or else they are charged with civil or criminal behavior and removed from society if necessary (lower right). This separation of church and sta
te, or more generally what Max Weber called the differentiation of the values spheres, is one of the great and enduring contributions of the Western enlightenment, a contribution almost entirely misunderstood by extreme postmodernists, who in fact are operating under its protection while bitterly co
ndemning it. (The most common version of this is the aggressive attempt to reduce "I" and "It" to "We,' or the attempt to reduce art and science to a social construction, which can therefore be deconstructed. As it turns out, this reductionism presumes precisely what it denies, but then, deconstruc
tive postmodernism has been little without its performative contradictions.) A truly integral politics exists nowhere on the planet at this time, principally because not enough individuals have emerged at the integral levels of consciousness, and hence no governments anywhere have integral represen
tatives as members (except rarely and by accident). Its principal challenge is to create some form of governance that allows each stage to be itself within the constraints of not harming others (i.e., to let red be red, and blue be blue, and orange be orange, and green be green, etc—precisely beca
use, as we saw, this is a right in virtually all free societies), and yet to govern from the highest, widest, deepest, and most encompassing levels of development emerged to date (starting at yellow). Most representative democracies do this anyway, except their center of gravity is not yet fully int
egral, and they do it implicitly, not explicitly.


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The colors in the ... ( 5 months ago by MaBu888)
The colors in the integral case have no correlation with anything, just random, and for some reason, Wilber changed some of them in his books.
this is simply ... ( 5 months ago by mrfatd)
this is simply mystic humbug
I cant help but ... ( 4 months ago by willhum)
I cant help but feel Ken Wilber should start by doing a degree in the social sciences first... start reading properly, Lacan, Foucault, Zizek, Zigmunt Bauman etc This idea of having an over-arching 'theory of everything' is highly problematic... especially when you end up basing things on colors rather than referencing others much! Some interesting ideas, but when you look closer it kind of falls apart, he is very weak on American foreign policy also.
I find Wilber's ... ( 4 months ago by silverbackman)
I find Wilber's political descriptions a bit too overgeneralized. Politics go beyond just democrat and republican......I take it he's of the opinion that the moderate way between democrat and republican is the ideal, and yet in reality the republicans and democrats don't differ too significantly. Another important fact is that both parties are really just out to increase their power. What about the libertarians (both socialist and capitalist).
A little off topic, ... ( 4 months ago by MaBu888)
A little off topic, but search, from Google, A Declaration of the Value of Global Governance. A website by a businesman Steve McIntosh who uses the integral theory for planning a possible post-UN (UN is not a gvernment lol) world government.
I'm liberal, and ... ( 4 months ago by chiptricks)
I'm liberal, and vote democrat. I also have a lot of liberal democrat friends, and I don't know one of them that places "the blame" of someone's mis-fortune on the exterior. I think some see that exterior circumstances can contribute to a problem, but it's not the sole reason.
For me, I realize that the environment, plus the "tools" (mental/material) that someone has contribute to where they are. So having a social network to assist those in need is essentail the health of the whole society.
Why is there that ... ( 4 months ago by eydos)
Why is there that in America are just two significant parties? If I were american I would search for other parties to vote for. Like libertarians for example or anything else. To me it seems unsubstantial to have only two parties, it its like they bought their first or second place and thus almost rule together. Like in a show, they seem to be different and create the allusion of choice.
I guess this is the ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
I guess this is the new way liberals try to justify their emotionally disturbed politics. Wilber here tries to act like he's balanced but his language, the people in the group, the manner of approaching the matter ("Everybody's scared to DEATH of blue!". Those stupid crazy conservatives) all scream liberal elite. His take on politics is simplistic, childish and narcissistic. Another group of comfortable libs judging the rest from on high. And now they have "developmental colors". Great.
Exactly. He's weak ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
Exactly. He's weak on foreign policy, e.g., because it's all symbolic to him. Would he really believe that Europe opposes U.S. foreign policy because they are at the 'higher' color green? Might they have, e.g., opposed the war in Iraq because they were riding Saddam's money train? But all that messy real politik like oil-for-food scandal means nothing to people who live in a Teletubby type world of symbolism and high-flown ideas that have little to do with real lives, except to screw them up.
Weather its Russell ... ( 3 months ago by willhum)
Weather its Russell Brand at the VMA's, Sarah Palin or Ken Wilber - Its clear the USA is in the grip of a big old culture war with no obvious winner or solution. Two very different ideas of what America stands for or what its about. Rural small town America of hockey Mums, Apple Pie, Neighbourliness, Conservative religious values and patriotism vs Liberal, elite, big City, pro-life, urban, progressive view of America (one that perhaps more easily speaks to most Europeans).
Nonthere, the ... ( 3 months ago by willhum)
Nonthere, the Europeans were not really riding the Sadam money train, no more so at least than the Americans in breaking sanctions. They see US policy in Iraq as problematic for all sorts of other reasons (e.g. no WMDS, huge civilian casualties, less security not more, loosing the moral high ground in dealing with Russia, winding up the Moslem world etc) i would agree though that either way its got nothing to do with Ken Wilber's color system.
It's too complex to ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
It's too complex to go into in 500 spaces. I won't argue Iraq but look up Christina Rosetti and the oil-for-food scandel before you give Europe a pass. Basically the Europeans have been given a free pass on defense spending for too long and have adopted nuanced appeasement as default. But it doesn't change my opinion that Wilber and his crowd don't seem to make any effort to get at this and instead choose to erect and live in a theoretical world based on emotional appeal rather than facts.
Christina Rosetti - ... ( 3 months ago by willhum)
Christina Rosetti - English poet 1830-94 was all I could find. "A free pass on defence spending'? Does that mean too much or too little spending IYHO? There is a big area to be explored between the idiot Washington Hawks and 'appeasement' - would suggest somewhere in there is the right way forward. Otherwise the US, the UK etc will end up the victims of more 'blowback' and the rest of the world will hate us, we wont reach our political goals. We dont need more Iraqs/Vietnams and nor do they!
Claudia Rosett was ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
Claudia Rosett was the reporter who did most on the scandal. My mistake, it was awhile ago. I wont bother with the rest of your screed, I've heard it all before, blowback, they hate us bla bla. The whole thing was supposed to be about Wilber and I thought I was speaking with someone reasonable, but you just want to rant your little lefty rant. Good, go stew on the Daily Kos. I'm done.
Oh, my mistake mate ... ( 3 months ago by willhum)
Oh, my mistake mate... fire away on Wilber if you like.. I'm all ears.
What I mean is that ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
What I mean is that, although you and I can disagree, at least we are looking at a complex array of facts and interpreting them, rightly or wrongly. I hope we can agree that the last thing political discourse needs is THIS ivory tower bullshit. I think Ken should go tell Putin "Vlad, you need to be more orange here. I mean, you're just clashing! And Mahmoud? You would look just fabulous in turquois!" I guarantee huge success with this approach.
Couldn't agree more ... ( 3 months ago by willhum)
Couldn't agree more. The thing is, if Ken Wilber was to get out of the ivory tower then he would be as open to critique as the rest of us... the color stuff allows him to float above all knowing (and in the process promote brand Wilber!!) You need to get your hands dirty, be open to criticism to really find solutions but I don't think that appeals to him.
It's not likely he ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
It's not likely he will. And it's even worse.
From the Integral Naked website:"over 70% of the world exists at egocentric or ethnocentric waves of development, rendering "one-person-one-vote" types of democracy miserably incapable when it comes to saving the human race from itself...(cont.)
"How, then, can we ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
"How, then, can we possibly develop and implement the policies that we so desperately need? This, as Ken mentions, would require something resembling "enlightened leadership," in which an elite body of policy makers, who embody the highest available altitude of human consciousness, are able to make the decisions which simply could not be made at lower levels of development."
"Enlightened ... ( 3 months ago by nonthere)
"Enlightened leadership" no doubt means Wilber and his friends. Given his known antagonism to criticism the whole thing seems to add up to an authoritarian personality cult. Hell, he's even got a power meter (2% of pop. at yellow w/10% of the power, or something). Ironic that he turns out to be as narcissistic as his own characters in Boomeritis. But that's where he really comes from, so old habits die hard.
I remember studying ... ( 3 months ago by brokennarcissist)
I remember studying Wilber and I argued that Liberalism was inherently typhonic, and the heart of liberalism is the recognition that we're all self serving. Also find it funny that in Canada the Liberals are red, the Conservatives are blue and the NDP is orange.
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